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Poster: billymays55 Date: Oct 17, 2012 12:18pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Mannequin (1937)

You just proved my point in the previous point you just had to figure out a way to see to it that this movie would not be discovered as PD. I was just going by YOUR rules that Moongleam faithfully posts in every thread. So why does it say your list of requirements that a timely renewal goes by the in-notice within the 27th-28th anniversary year window??

Which one is it? Those rules have been posted on here forever and now all of a sudden your bringing up a court case that states otherwise and states that they have an extension till the end of the calender year? WTF???

Please explain....and what is your basis for "normally would agree that the cut of for renewal of a pre-1950 movie would be the registration anniversary window based on year in notice"

Is there something else I'm not getting?


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Video-Cellar:

These are the only requirements for copyright protection of a US work
in the USA I know. My sources, as always, are years of studying
copyright legislation, copyright office documents, scholarly legal
articles and working with PD material. These are the requirements I
use to judge whether a US film is PD.

Before 1950:
Correct Notice
Timely registration (within 3 months of publication)
Timely renewal (within the 27th-28th anniversary year window*)
copyright could be forfeited if published without correct notice or
not timely registered and renewed

1950 (this is the transitional year for the effects of the 1976 act to come in):
Correct Notice
Timely registration (within 3 months of publication)
OR Late Term Registration (at any time during the 28 year term)
Timely renewal (within the 27th-28th anniversary year window* or the
28th calandar year window*)
copyright could be forfeited if published without correct notice or
not timely renewed

1950-1963
Correct Notice
Registration (at any time during the first 28 year term)
Timely renewal (within the 28th calandar year window*)
copyright could be forfeited if published without correct notice or
not timely renewed

1964-1977
Correct Notice
copyright could be forfeited if published without correct notice.
Registration is only required for evidentiary purposes in pursuing
damages actions against infringers

1978-1989
Notice
copyright could be forfeited if published without notice provided
steps were not taken to rectify the ommission within 5 years from
publication (this could include including notices in later editions or
registration.). If a notice was included registration is only required
for evidentiary purposes in pursuing damages actions against
infringers

1989-present:
Work is created and or published
work is covered by copyright unless dedicated to the public domain or
released through an alternative licence.

*based on the year-in-notice.

This post was modified by billymays55 on 2012-10-17 19:18:02

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Poster: PDpolice Date: Oct 17, 2012 12:33pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Mannequin (1937)

My standard reply may become the following verbiage.

If a movies status is reasonably questionable, upload it and see if the Copyright holder asks for it to be removed. Anyone other than the current holder is making an educated guess at best. Even the most knowledgeable person on this site has admitted to an error about PD status at some point.
The Internet Archive people quickly remove those files that are uploaded in good faith but which are later found to be copyrighted.
Just don’t make it hard on the staff by posting obviously copyrighted materials.
And send a donation in.

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Poster: Video-Cellar Date: Oct 17, 2012 4:50pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Mannequin (1937)

Of course the uploader should have an understanding that the Archive's safe harbor does not extend to them and that even unintential, non-commercial, or unknowing infringement of copyright may leave them liable to civil or criminal penalties. Even after the Archive takes the item down.

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Poster: Moongleam Date: Oct 17, 2012 5:24pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Mannequin (1937)

Now that is a very chilling thought!

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Poster: Quigs Date: Oct 17, 2012 9:20pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Mannequin (1937)

So, I guess it doesn't go up.

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Poster: rabid47 Date: Oct 26, 2012 6:59am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Mannequin (1937)

If it does, it'll probably come down again.

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Poster: Quigs Date: Oct 26, 2012 10:29am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Mannequin (1937)

I think I understand.
Quigs

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Poster: Video-Cellar Date: Oct 17, 2012 5:04pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Mannequin (1937)

Double Post



This post was modified by Video-Cellar on 2012-10-18 00:04:24